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Carli 4x4 Radius Arm Drop Brackets | 3.5" Lift | F-250/F-350 (Super Duty 2023+)

SKU: CRL-CS-FRAD-LVL-2325
$912.00
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The 2023+ Super Duty introduced some new challenges, specifically pertaining to caster. The steering assist and Ford’s 1° – 3.6° allowable caster range seems to work alright for those equipped with stock, relatively low-mileage Super Duties but, once a lift or oversized tire enters the equation, the handling at this low caster specification leaves us wanting.

When lifting the front of the Super Duty 3 – 3.5″, the factory caster is reduced by approximately 1.5°. For the 2020-23 Super Duty, we provide a 2° caster shim which is enough to restore this caster and add a touch more – unfortunately, this “touch more” is rarely enough for proper tracking. This leaves us recommending our Adjustable Radius Arms proven to add an additional 2.5° of caster (when maxed). Combining the Carli Arms and 2° shims results in a Super Duty on 37″ tires that holds a lane, and returns to center after a turn, better than a stock truck.

Enter the 2024 Super Duty – Ford made ONE change to the platform… They added an outer axle-mounted guard to prevent debris from entering the outside axle tube (highlighted in RED for clarity). The issue is in the functionality of the ball-joint mounted caster shims we provide in our 05-23 Super Duty Systems to correct the caster. These shims don’t affect the axial position of the axle, but rotate the knuckle/upper ball joint position rearward relative to the axle’s outer “c” to increase caster.

Given the tight proximity of this debris shield to the axle tube, any caster shim over  will cause contact. Unfortunately, these trucks come with low caster from the factory compounded by the loss of caster from lifting the truck (radius arms tilt the axle forward – reducing caster – as the axle travels away from the frame); we had to figure out a solution.

With the above testing of available caster correction options, we were able to get the truck where Ford wants it, but is that where we want it? The factory Ford caster specification is outlined in the above printouts; it reads:

  • 1.0°-3.6°: Driver
  • 1.3°-3.9°: Passenger

These specs are for a stock Super Duty and, with smaller tires, the lower end of the range tracks and drives OK. Honestly, we’ve put a ton of time behind the wheel of 23+ Super Duties with this caster spec and they all drive fine without any signs of death wobble or instability. We’ve always preferred the tracking and handling of larger tires in the 3°-5° range. We’ve run up to nearly 7° with no ill effect (no wobble, tracking or driveshaft binding issues) aside from a “heavy” steering wheel – even this would only likely apply to an XL/XLT without the electric steering assist of the higher trims.

We set out to design a Radius Arm Drop Bracket solution that would be more cost-effective than (and stack-able with) the Adjustable Radius Arms and, hopefully, provide ample caster correction, even with stock arms.

The stock radius arm frame pivot is tricky as it’s a stamp-formed bracket with a deep lip around the perimeter. Normally, we design our drop brackets to bolt to the inside of the factory pivot, form along the bottom of the factory bracket, then shape to fit the factory arm exactly as our 5.5″ drops do. The issue… this is too much drop and would cause excessive caster for the lift height and an upward radius arm angle at ride height.

To make this work, we pickup the same rear support as our 5.5″ drops, then our bracket sandwiches the factory bracket. To accommodate the “lip” on the factory bracket, we provide a thick spacer that keys into the Carli drop bracket taking up the gap on the outside, then a thinner spacer to take up the same slack on the inside and finally, a dual crush sleeve to provide inside support to the factory bracket. The exposed bolt shank represents the location of the two ears of the factory bracket when installed.

  • Drops pivot point for ideal arm angle on Carli 3.5" lifts
  • 1/4" steel construction
  • Powder coated finish
  • Bolt-on installation

Fits:
Ford F-250 (2023+)
Ford F-350 (2023+)

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Carli 4x4 Radius Arm Drop Brackets | 3.5" Lift | F-250/F-350 (Super Duty 2023+)

The 2023+ Super Duty introduced some new challenges, specifically pertaining to caster. The steering assist and Ford’s 1° – 3.6° allowable caster range seems to work alright for those equipped with stock, relatively low-mileage Super Duties but, once a lift or oversized tire enters the equation, the handling at this low caster specification leaves us wanting.

When lifting the front of the Super Duty 3 – 3.5″, the factory caster is reduced by approximately 1.5°. For the 2020-23 Super Duty, we provide a 2° caster shim which is enough to restore this caster and add a touch more – unfortunately, this “touch more” is rarely enough for proper tracking. This leaves us recommending our Adjustable Radius Arms proven to add an additional 2.5° of caster (when maxed). Combining the Carli Arms and 2° shims results in a Super Duty on 37″ tires that holds a lane, and returns to center after a turn, better than a stock truck.

Enter the 2024 Super Duty – Ford made ONE change to the platform… They added an outer axle-mounted guard to prevent debris from entering the outside axle tube (highlighted in RED for clarity). The issue is in the functionality of the ball-joint mounted caster shims we provide in our 05-23 Super Duty Systems to correct the caster. These shims don’t affect the axial position of the axle, but rotate the knuckle/upper ball joint position rearward relative to the axle’s outer “c” to increase caster.

Given the tight proximity of this debris shield to the axle tube, any caster shim over  will cause contact. Unfortunately, these trucks come with low caster from the factory compounded by the loss of caster from lifting the truck (radius arms tilt the axle forward – reducing caster – as the axle travels away from the frame); we had to figure out a solution.

With the above testing of available caster correction options, we were able to get the truck where Ford wants it, but is that where we want it? The factory Ford caster specification is outlined in the above printouts; it reads:

  • 1.0°-3.6°: Driver
  • 1.3°-3.9°: Passenger

These specs are for a stock Super Duty and, with smaller tires, the lower end of the range tracks and drives OK. Honestly, we’ve put a ton of time behind the wheel of 23+ Super Duties with this caster spec and they all drive fine without any signs of death wobble or instability. We’ve always preferred the tracking and handling of larger tires in the 3°-5° range. We’ve run up to nearly 7° with no ill effect (no wobble, tracking or driveshaft binding issues) aside from a “heavy” steering wheel – even this would only likely apply to an XL/XLT without the electric steering assist of the higher trims.

We set out to design a Radius Arm Drop Bracket solution that would be more cost-effective than (and stack-able with) the Adjustable Radius Arms and, hopefully, provide ample caster correction, even with stock arms.

The stock radius arm frame pivot is tricky as it’s a stamp-formed bracket with a deep lip around the perimeter. Normally, we design our drop brackets to bolt to the inside of the factory pivot, form along the bottom of the factory bracket, then shape to fit the factory arm exactly as our 5.5″ drops do. The issue… this is too much drop and would cause excessive caster for the lift height and an upward radius arm angle at ride height.

To make this work, we pickup the same rear support as our 5.5″ drops, then our bracket sandwiches the factory bracket. To accommodate the “lip” on the factory bracket, we provide a thick spacer that keys into the Carli drop bracket taking up the gap on the outside, then a thinner spacer to take up the same slack on the inside and finally, a dual crush sleeve to provide inside support to the factory bracket. The exposed bolt shank represents the location of the two ears of the factory bracket when installed.

  • Drops pivot point for ideal arm angle on Carli 3.5" lifts
  • 1/4" steel construction
  • Powder coated finish
  • Bolt-on installation

Fits:
Ford F-250 (2023+)
Ford F-350 (2023+)

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